ArtDecoDelRey

yeah she’s really out of touch… know your facts or stfu honestly

Biden and the US supporting the genocide is not in the interest of American Jews but rather because they use Israel for Western political interests in the Middle East (and have since its inception).
 
The vast majority of American Zionists are not even Jewish but nationalist Evangelicals.

i know this is meant to be a surface level bare minimum political commentary but do you know how actually brain dead you have to be to read this and sign it? listing all these ethnicities they pulled out their ass and then not even including palestinians- people who have actually been taken hostage by the IDF…
the fact that azerbaijan is on the list makes me wonder if having a head full of air is a requirement to becoming a celebrity 

If it can enlighten people as to why this letter is so criticized:
It is mostly full of shit regarding the conflict. It's not only poorly worded but plain disgusting when you read between the lines.
Of course it's a good thing to ask for the release of hostages and I sure hope all of them are safe and will soon go back to their family, unharmed.
 
But:
"Thank you for your unshakable moral conviction"
I wouldn't qualify funding the bombing of civilians to be an unshakable moral conviction, but ok.
 
"and for the Palestinians who have also been terrorized, oppressed, and victimized by Hamas"
Totally shifting the Apartheid politics perpetuated by Israel on the enemy's side. It's a gross manipulation I can't overlook. Anyone with two brain cells and access to Internet can learn how Israel deported, murdered, jailed Palestinians and destroyed any of their infrastructures since late 40s.
Also, Israel helped create Hamas in the 80s to politically destabilize Palestine and smother any Palestinian authority to face them. Just saying.
 
"We all want the same thing: freedom for Israelis and Palestinians to live side by side in peace"
I believe these celebs they do. But the government of Israel don't. None of their actions show a urge to make peace. Look up the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin. 
Or the shady stuff surrounding Marwan Barghouti. Some Palestinian politicians could have led a pacific government had Israel not throw a wrench in the gears.
 
"And most urgently, in this moment, freedom for the hostages."
The wounded in Gaza having no access to water or really any ressources to even survive are just as important. No mention of Palestinians being bombed without the possibility of escaping, as Israel is encircling them. They're literally in an open-air prison. Their fate isn't different from hostages.
 
A true peace statement would call for a ceasefire and humanitarian aid. That letter is garbage.

Biden and the US supporting the genocide is not in the interest of American Jews but rather because they use Israel for Western political interests in the Middle East (and have since its inception).
 
The vast majority of American Zionists are not even Jewish but nationalist Evangelicals.

Well maybe she should start, and if she can’t then she just shouldn’t address it period 

I agree with everything you've posted, but I have to add to that: Palestine is all innocent. Hamas might be tied to Palestine but it isn't Palestine. It's kinda like the IRA/Ireland: the actions of one group shouldn't condemn civilians... especially when Israel has the means to send troops instead of blindly bombing lands. They're deliberately choosing to kill innocents. 
 
They're also currently bombing the West Bank despite Hamas having no ties to Jordanians. Basically, they're using the deaths of their own people as an excuse to further expand the occupation. 
 
What makes me super mad about that letter, though, is that line about Hamas terrorizing Palestine for 15 years. What a way to twist the truth... Israel has been deporting and purging Palestine for 70 years now, but I guess it's not important in the slightest 
 
 
Exactly. Every country defending Israel is just protecting their interest. It has nothing to do with the fact they're Jews or surviving children of the Shoah. They couldn't care less about that. If they were truly shocked and moved by genocide, they would have lifted a finger for the freedom of Palestine long ago.
 
Those hypocrites also would have welcomed Jews when they needed a place the most (Palestine wasn't even the promise land... Many Jews back in the day sought refuge in America, but were drove back because no one wanted them. It was apparently easier to give them a piece of land Western countries didn't truly own.)
 
Also, friendly reminder that not every Jew is pro-Israel and even not every Israeli is pro-Israel (in the sense they're not ok with their government's decisions) just like not every Palestinian is pro-Hamas. All those civilians, whether they're from Israel or Palestine, mostly want peace. They're all victims of the actions of their own government, and that's what's so tragic. 
 
All those celebs picking sides like it's a fucking football game are privileged, ignorant assholes sheltered in a safe country. When they praise Biden leadership, they just ignore the wish of agonizing populations that are fucking tired of politics and just want to be able to live another day. 

… Why do celebrities sign these things, like, as if the president cares about it? I doubt he does. 

Biden and the US supporting the genocide is not in the interest of American Jews but rather because they use Israel for Western political interests in the Middle East (and have since its inception).
 
The vast majority of American Zionists are not even Jewish but nationalist Evangelicals.

Biden and the US supporting the genocide is not in the interest of American Jews but rather because they use Israel for Western political interests in the Middle East (and have since its inception).
 
The vast majority of American Zionists are not even Jewish but nationalist Evangelicals.

Biden and the US supporting the genocide is not in the interest of American Jews but rather because they use Israel for Western political interests in the Middle East (and have since its inception).
 
The vast majority of American Zionists are not even Jewish but nationalist Evangelicals.

The only “pro-Palestinian pro-peace” statement is a calling for an immediate ceasefire, not anything less 

The problem is that people venerate celebrities and their opinions way too much. It's been fascinating to witness the shock and feelings of betrayal expressed by people when their favs came out in support of Israel. "Not Sarah Paulson!" "Not Florence Pugh!" Like, celebs live comfortably and have little to no incentive to do additional research on geopolitical conflicts. It's just easier for them to jump on bandwagons and share Instagram infographics that make news easily digestible but also far too simplistic. 
 
Having been around when Lana first made controversial statements about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in 2018, I'm not too surprised by this. She's a lib through and through. In fact, most 'woke' celebs veer towards centrism rather than leftism on the political compass lol. It's disappointing nonetheless.
 
This is a really good video discussing the current phenomenon. 
 
 

I don't know how unpopular this is cause I've seen mixed reactions all over the internet but I don't like the new tour at all 
 
I love her looks, vocals are amazing and she's so happy so I'm happy for her but all the dancers doing random shit on stage takes me out of it 
 
She said it helps her confidence so at the end of the day I'm glad for her but I really miss the earlier tours when it was just her doing her random mini dances, the sexy drops and the walks around the stage without any planning. 
 
I guess it made every single show a bit more special cause you didn't know what to expect from her and now it's all more choreographed and such
I get why some people would prefer this type of show tho 

The truth is she probably grew up middle class. Which there’s nothing wrong with that, and I can see why she feels defensive about it because the middle class does constantly get shit on by both sides (lower and upper classes) but like some of you guys need to detach a little bit and take a couple seconds to breathe 

who tf is you yelling at??? 

"....And my parents didn't even know I was singing, until I was on Saturday Night Live, so *looks away*..."
 
 

july 9, 2007 http://lanaboards.com/topic/1290-20070709-the-cutting-room/
 
i think you're confused, all i'm saying is that she's lying about her family not being aware of her music career or her singing until saturday night live, and she did say that more than once in the comments she made recently/that video she posted

okay... but let's be real, her family were definitely well aware of her music career before saturday night live lmao
 

 
rob literally promoted the kill kill EP on his old websites
 
https://web.archive.org/web/20090304191404/http://musicpublishers.com/
 
i honestly don't really care or have a problem with her possibly growing up rich, but why lie about stuff at all?

For the reaons i just mentioned dumbass, As someone who actually grew up poor, private jets were not something we often came by lmao.
 
Anyway my initial point stated that i believe she grew up poor however it's clear that by the time she was maybe in her late teens or early 20s, her family had money and her dad had a lot of connections in the industry. This is just my opinion anyway, and i'm entitled to that whether i'm right or wrong, but there's evidence in the pictures 

big day for Lizzyologists

I think part of the problem is that a lot of people don't realise that one of the differences between being rich and being poor, is that if you're rich, you're always rich, but if you're poor/not rich, then some months you'll have money, and some months you won't have any money, so if you aren't taught how to handle your spending (which unfortunately is extremely common among those lower than upper-middle-class), when you have any money, there's a good chance you're spending it on things/experiences that someone looking on and judging you might assess as being frivolous. Every part of Lana's story checks out if you remember that she grew up in the 80s/90s, not the 1930s (when poor meant you never had anything).

also those pics from her lizzy grant days with patty and rob on like private jets and shit with that politician guy, please she was not poor 

What i'm taking from this video is that the next album needs to be called White Trash from Lake Placid