Bootynugget

We must stream Charli's upcoming single and album for clear skin

Charli XCX

I saw a comment on Reddit that Taylor Swift knows Lana better than any of us, and honestly, a lot of people need to hear that and understand that instead of acting like Taylor did Lana dirty last night

Boygenius is fucking whole foods gluten free aisle fake deep indie that makes Clairo look fucking deep in comparison. And no one give a fuck about Paramore and their 2009 hot topic pop-punk shit thats been stale for over a decade now and an insult to real punk music. The more one thinks about the alternate category snubs the more insulting everything becomes 

I think it hurts worse because I was so sure and confident that she would be winning at least one. I wasn't even worried because I just knew she had it in the bag. I think I'm still in shock. 

I really thought that she would win Best Alternative Music Performance. She had *no* competition at all. A&W was the most acclaimed song of 2023. It topped all the major publications' lists. It received a SOTY nomination. There was no fucking competition! When she lost that, I knew that she'd leave empty-handed. I mean, I get it, for some bizarre reason "the record" was the most acclaimed album of 2023 so it beating Ocean Blvd in the Alternative Album category was a plausible scenario as much as we don't like it. But the Scammys refusing to give Lana the Alternative Performance Grammy despite the fact that 2023 was a huge year for her both commercially and critically and that she had a unanimously raved song? It's an insane and disgusting snub. 

Ok I know it's nottt that serious but I'm on my lunch break running on two hours of sleep and I felt inspired to write a dramatic incoherent rant of my own to get some of my frustration out, read at your own peril:
 
I feel like this was a "last exit before the bridge" type of situation; it's a shame the Grammy's missed it. Not for Lana, but for them. 
 
As other on this forum have so eloquently pointed out, it's a sore spot for the music industry at large that the woman they ridiculed a decade ago turned into arguably the most influential artist of her generation, spawning many of today's establishment-darlings. It's no wonder they are scared of her, and scared to reward her, because it means admitting fault, and that's never an easy thing to do. 
 
Yet, one might have thought, twelve years after Born To Die's release, on the back of a career-defining, genre-spanning ninth studio album, they could finally have found the grace and humility to say, hey, we were wrong. To finally give an artist as influential - and historically controversial - as Lana her flowers would have been a good look on the Grammys, one that's become rarer and rarer in years mired by public outcry at the choice of winners for the big awards. 
 
I don't mean to understate Lana's ability to reinvent herself and redefine her artistry time and time again, I'm certain she can and will continue to challenge our expectations of her in the best way possible, but it’s still hard to imagine an opus rivaling Ocean Blvd arriving anytime soon. This album is such a layered, richly rewarding listen for anyone who has followed Lana's journey as an artist: her barest lyrics yet evoke impossible emotions, worlds of meaning are hidden within the structure of the tracklist, the album morphs into then transcends the metaphor of its eponymous track.
 
Nominating such a body of work five times yet refusing to bestow any accolades upon it while awarding other, derivative, and frankly infinitely more simple albums and songs is a confounding choice on the Recording Academy's part, but it's not Lana Del Rey's loss. Though she keeps pushing ever forward, the culture at large has finally caught up to her—  at least enough to recognise her impact as a generational artist, even as her self-mythology remains impermeable to many. 
 
Lana will move through this as she has moved through all the noise that has surrounded her for more than decade: without missing a step in her unrelenting quest to offer up her soul’s truth in her music. But when your first four-time AOTY winner in history has to take time out of her speech to praise, in her own words, that legend in her prime, who is standing behind her in the shadows, empty-handed—  you have to realise you've abjectly failed as a committee whose stated aim is to recognise "outstanding" achievements in music. 
 
Lana will probably win a Grammy one day, but it will ring hollow when she does. The moment of redemption has passed.

I think she knew after not winning earlier in the day; I don’t mean literal spoilers, but knew in her heart. I thought so the moment I saw her outfit… this is just speculation, but I don’t think that was her planned dress. It looked to me like she chose to dress, not like the spotlight winner (which she DID dress as for the gala the night before, when she still thought she might win), but like the mysterious eccentric genius, the artists’ artist, too cool for a mainstream award but there to support her basic bee friend. I really liked Taylor bringing her on stage; that was right. Lana IS the living legend. 

Idk if anyone shared this yet but I just saw a picture of Lana's nails and they're so pretty! She was definitely going for a Black Swan/White Swan thing and it also makes me think of Swan Song 
 

 
from @nails_by_yoko on Instagram

I don't even think Lana was that bothered, i think she obviously would've liked to win but i don't think she's as hurt as the way some people are trying to make it seem. Why are people so desperately trying to paint this narrative on her? Ya'll be squinting at the TV trying to see if there's a hint of a tear in her eye, it's super weird
She was clearly happy for Taylor and handled it with grace and elegance, because that's the kind of woman she is

I woke up and .... 
 
I don't think I can even bring myself to watch the main show now in retrospect knowing that she doesn't win anything. 
 
Anyway, I'm feeling really really awful and I need to rant, so, here's my own QFTC
 
I think the "music industry" is scared of Lana, because she's one of the biggest pop stars in the world right now and she doesn't owe them anything. Her success has been through her own hard work over decades of persistence. As much as journalists tried to push the industry plant theories during BTD, deep down they all know that she's there, standing among them, because she sang to crowds of just ten people in bars, she wrote and wrote and wrote and pushed and pushed and pushed and when finally she hit the radios, people listened. And people loved her. 

The fact that Lana is the force she is without having a single Grammy, without getting huge radio play, without pandering to the critics, the zeitgeist, the egos that need stroking .. that's what they're all afraid of. Intimidated by. 

I think she's one of the only huge artists of our time who took the "traditional" struggle route (touring tiny jazz bars and local pubs) and went "viral" (on tumblr). She incapsulates both the old and the new way of gaining success. 

Plus, her music, her looks — they're endless homages to icons of the past. There's countless references to literature, movies, singers, poetry, cultural icons, fashion. And yet despite building so much on our collective nostalgia, Lana is authentically herself. Despite what magazines try to push, no Lana fan wonders who she is under her references. Nobody thinks it feels empty. It's such a feat to be able to effortlessly reference the past while influencing the future generations. It's been said time and time again how Lana is the reason that Billie, Olivia, even Taylor make the music they do today. For someone who is blinded by their own fear and hatred about Lana's struggles in the past, her "bad influence," her "inauthenticity," having an artist who is simultaneously able to exist in the past, present and future is the epitome of power ... power they didn't bestow and power they didn't want her to have  
 
She has built a legacy (and DYKTTATUOB was the cementation of that legacy, whether it won or not) that will surpass 99% of the people in the music industry currently ... 
 
And it's been said time and time again but things that appeal (mostly) to women are derided. Any kind of media. I totally get what Lana was saying in QFTC although it wasn't worded well (and this probably won't be either). Nothing has changed, not really. I know Lana said in the Billboard awards that she's glad people feel they can't express themselves now as it didn't feel that way in 2008, but I don't think anyone, Billie Taylor and Olivia included, is singing about the experience of being a woman like Lana is: Just look at A&W ... we still have some way to go before people (mostly MEN) accept that it's just as worthwhile to sing about the experience of SA, alcoholism, suicide ideation, abusive relationships, and family trauma as it is to sing about being powerful and strong as a woman (and you can be those things while singing about those topics that everyone just wants to ignore). It takes courage to sing about these things when so often nobody in your own personal life wants to listen! But singing to millions of people? The vulnerability? Beautiful. There are millions of women (and men) who see the power in that. 

On the same topic, I absolutely hate that some stupid articles before the Grammy's didn't even mention Lana's name once despite her being nominated in 2 major categories, yet mentioned Jack in relation to Lana's work. As much as I am happy for Jack for his win it feels much the same way that he won in part thanks to her artistry while she is barely mentioned in the media coverage, on the carpet ... anywhere. Except by Jack and Taylor themselves (). This might be controversial but it reeks of sexism to me. I just HATE how she is treated almost as if her name is dirty so they just avoid saying mentioning her as if she doesn't even exist. URGH I AM IN SUCH A BAD MOOD 

I don’t know if it’s because I had like 3 hours of sleep or what but I’m still gutted over this. I know it’s just an award show, but I really had such a good feeling about it since the nominations were announced. It just sucks 

I have to say I do really like the fact that Taylor brought her up on stage and shouted her out and it’s really nice that she’s always paying homage to her and respecting her. You can tell she genuinely adores Lana. Also the hair fixing moment and them holding hands was just 

when abel shows up on her coachella set and both of them yell FUCK THE GRAMMYS then what 

Jack was ushering Lana along too but ofc everyone wants to blame Taylor only
I really don't think it's that terrible
Wanting to have your friends with you on stage for such an occasion is not some sort of sinister act 

You are fucking 100% spot on.
 
Lana doesn't "play the game". That's why a lot of us thought it was odd that she actively campaigned for Ocean Blvd (at the urging of others it seems?), inspired by the goodwill she'd been receiving, just to ultimately be slapped in the face by the powers that be.
 
Her punishment, right? Well, no, because she benefits both ways. She doesn't have to ever do SHIT for the Grammys again, and she'll still be incredibly successful, innovative, subversive, and self-maintained... all of that without being some cookie cutter industry shrill trying to impress the industry bigwigs. Isn't she the #2 most streamed female artist on Spotify currently? She's quite literally the 2nd most prolific and successful female artist out there right now. And she did it without being watered down, or playing it safe. 
 
If she wants to say "fuck it" and go even more gloves off now, well... We ride at dawn! She's a genius. And she'll be fine without a stupid trophy given to her by Boomers who never understood her (or tried to) anyway. Fuck 'em. She's a true rebel, and rebels are rarely rewarded easily by those who have played it safe their entire lives.

This is just so unfair, disrespectful and disappointing towards Lana and I am so sad for her. But imo it was great that she got a shout out from Taylor and Jack and kinda from Billie too (she said that every song on that list was crazy good). And I am not the biggest Taylor fan but it was cute that she wanted Lana to be on the stage and gave her a little moment. Sure it was awkward a bit but imagine Taylor and Jack left her alone at the table, I am sure she would have gotten some hate for that too. And I mean Lana is a featured artist on Midnights as well and I am sure Taylor had good intentions.
I still can't find a logical reason why Paramore and Boygenius won over Lana in the alt categories and I don't think Midnights deserved AOTY and A&W definitely deserved SOTY. But in the end it's not the artists to blame for but the voters in the grammy comitee. They clearly don't like her for whatever reason and the voters comment mentioning SNL sadly said it all. I just hope Lana, knows how beloved she is, that is she doing insane streaming numbers, that she paved the way and that we all proud of her and her art and that she is truly ahead of time. I hope she stops caring about the Grammys bc they clearly do not deserve her at all but yeah she deserved to get a Grammy more than anyone else it is long overdue. Literally talked to some friends this morning about this which are more like casual listeners and they were shocked and in disbelief when I told them that Lana never won a Grammy. But luckily there is so much important things out there than having a Grammy but for sure it would have been a nice credit.
With that being said stream the true album of the year and of our hearts: Did You Know That There's A Tunnel Under Ocean Blvd

I love that Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus and Jay-Z all basically said fuck the grammys on stage

I'm really disappointed because, just like most of you guys, I was so confident she was taking home at least one award. I know it's a competition and I don't want Lana to be a victim but this is all so unfair. Everyone was getting their awards, and nothing for Lana? Who was second best selling woman in the world, even more than the people she lost against? Who had one of the most monumental, critically applauded albums of the 2020s? Who didn't stop making the news for her magnetic performances at some of the most important festivals in the world? Who had the most talked-about album of the entire year? 
 
Midnights was the Best Pop Vocal Album, why give it the AOTY too? What Was I Made For won Best Song Written for Visual Media, the category it totally deserved as it was, well, the best song written for visual media of the bunch? How does that song reflect 2023 as Song of the Year, and not A&W with its actually thought-provoking lyrics?
 
Boygenius for Best Alternative Music Album; I know The Record was acclaimed too, but in what world Ocean Blvd wasn't the alternative album of the year? The one that's actaully left-field, deeply conceptual, with multiple sounds, instruments, dynamics and lyrics that actually represent the alternative side of music; topics that aren't talked about, that are feared by most, and not as explored as they should. Why give This Is Why Best Alternative Song, when its parent album won Best Rock Album? Couldn't they, really, give anything to Lana?
 
If this is a popularity contest, yes they all deserved... Miley, SZA and everyone else; but 2023 was undoubtedly Lana's popularity peak, and it only seems to rise. How, seriously how wasn't she awarded for that? What does she have to do to have this level of mainstream recognition? She doesn't need it, of course, as she's a critic darling, a festival darling, a GP darling... everyone loves her. She hasn't reached the tip of the "music industry" iceberg, but does she really need to? Prime TV, the Grammys, the Oscars... maybe her fate really is to be a trailblazer, watch all of her disciples come and go, grab the gold and the applause, but she will remain strong and influential, discussed and forever relevant.
 
I love you Lana, and I love you Ocean Blvd; others are thankful for seeing their favorite artists reach #1 and undeservedly break Grammy records; I personally am thankful for experiencing the music, for being part of this global movement that is Lana Del Rey, driven by her pure talent and timeless songwriting.
 
By the way, she looked breathtaking.
 

2023 was literally her year. it’s sad these old voters don't realize how important she is 

Photo dump of Lana celebrating Taylor’s win -
 

I was so beautiful Taylor talking how legendary lana is

is this satire or do ppl genuinely think her beaming smile is a sign of discomfort  

regardless of how you look at it, she supported Lana and got that message out there.

this is who im personally blaming idk about y'all