Norman Fucking Rockwell - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll

[Fingertips 72,117]

Found on the Reddit thread:

 

"the song Doing Time why did she plagiarize it, that's not cool of her" 

 

  

[bartenders 1,206]

Found on the Reddit thread:

 

"the song Doing Time why did she plagiarize it, that's not cool of her" 

 

  

Doing Time looks so odd as a title omg that 'g' makes it feel like a whole new title

[cherriesinthespring 5,486]

 

Why did I think it was gonna be translucent pink lol I love this! It’s like perfect bubblegum/hot pink

Is the green solid or translucent?

[Beautiful Loser 46,169]

Why did I think it was gonna be translucent pink lol I love this! It’s like perfect bubblegum/hot pink

Is the green solid or translucent?

Solid!

[cherriesinthespring 5,486]

Doing Time looks so odd as a title omg that 'g' makes it feel like a whole new title

It’s a Very Serious prison sentence as opposed to a casual one

[Wynwood 19,966]

this might be the first Lana album with no skips for me.

 

with BTD i skip Without you and Lucky ones. in Paradise i skip Cola. In UV i skip TOW, Florida Kilos, and Guns and Roses. With HM i skip Burnt norton and DLMBM. with LFL i skip every song.

 

but i don't skip any song on this album, theyre all amazing       

[evilentity 13,308]

Full disclosure: I am a full-blown Barrie shipper so feel free to take this post with however many grains of salt you deem necessary.

 

evilentity wrote a great post a while back about why he thinks (the demo) is a Barrie song
http://lanaboards.com/index.php?/topic/8539-best-american-record/?p=415161
 
I think it's safe to assume if BAR is a Barrie song TNAB is too just with revised history/reflection on Lana's original feelings at the time.

I'd actually kinda forgotten I'd written these thoughts out. But re-reading them and then comparing the "demo" lyrics side-by-side with the album is both striking and eerie. Gone are all the lyrics that I said I thought sounded harsh or unfair, replaced by more complimentary lyrics expressing regret, acknowledgment of her own role in things, and wanting him back. (Incidentally, I agree with the consensus that the new lyrics are inferior despite probably being more fair and true to how she feels now.)

Now consider the first verse, pre-chorus, and chorus of the very next track, "The Greatest":

I miss Long Beach and I miss you babe
I miss dancing with you the most of all
I miss the bar where the Beach Boys would go
Dennis's last stop before Kokomo
 
Those nights were on fire
We couldn't get higher
We didn't know that we had it all
But nobody warns you before the fall
 
And I'm wasted
Don't leave, I just need a wake-up call
I'm facing the greatest
The greatest loss of them all

H/t to @@annedauphine for helping me remember the name of a bar a profile/interview talked about her going to with Barrie. From Nylon in 2013:

These days, a typical afternoon involves waking up late, drinking coffee, smoking a cigarette on her back porch with O'Neill, and then taking a drive, usually to Malibu and always with Del Rey behind the wheel. He'll hum a song into his iPhone recorder; she'll put in her two cents. Sometimes they'll stop at Neptune's Net, a biker bar at the end of the beach.

Now I haven't been able to confirm that Neptune's Net was specifically a "bar where the Beach Boys would go" (where's @@Monicker when we need him!), but it's a bar popular with surfers next to Ventura County Line Beach, a location referenced in the Beach Boys hit "Surfin' USA" so this seems the likely referent, which would make this a Barrie song.

If so, it's pretty significant that she's effectively describing the loss of Barrie in apocalyptic terms, placing it on the same scale as the civilizational decay of this shitty timeline we're all living through right now in which the world is on fire literally and metaphorically. The greatest loss of them all. This conflation is reminiscent of her cover of Skeeter Davis' "The End of the World":

Don't they know it's the end of the world?
It ended when I lost your love

Taken together, "California", as unsubtle of a let's-get-back-together-at-least-to-hook-up-if-nothing-else song as it gets, followed by "The Next Best American Record" and "The Greatest", this three-song block of Barrie songs on NFR (and there may be others) is quite a statement some five years after their break-up.

Two points in conclusion:

• Between the Barrie songs and possible FJM references I wouldn't sleep easy if I was that Chase Stogel guy.
• Barrie, shoot your shot. Even if only for a booty call.

[WildMustang 14,725]

Who is gonna leak HtD piano version

[cherriesinthespring 5,486]

I was worried I wouldn’t like the subdued version of FIILY but luckily I love it just the same as the single version

[Creyk 11,497]

Who is gonna leak HtD piano version

Whew the day NFR demos start surfacing will be wild.

[gatadelrey 4,597]

sometimes when my cat looks at me she gives me this look like “there’s things I want to say to you but I’ll just let you live” and it’s making me sad.

[WaitForLife 5,031]

Who is gonna leak HtD piano version

We need the instrumentals first!

[Wynwood 19,966]

if yall are wondering what lanas reaching for in the album cover 

 

 

 

[PARADIXO 31,662]

I was listening to Venice Bitch while walking to work and I can't believe how perfectly executed it is. Every single instrument in the song has its specific moment to shine. The synths, the drums, the cymbals, guitar, bass, voice, sax...

 

Also I love the new mastering.

[Wynwood 19,966]

I was listening to Venice Bitch while walking to work and I can't believe how perfectly executed it is. Every single instrument in the song has its specific moment to shine. The synths, the drums, the cymbals, guitar, bass, voice, sax...

 

Also I love the new mastering.

i would say "taste" but you trash some of my favorite songs on this record 

[cherriesinthespring 5,486]

Is it all downhill from here How will she ever top this album I fall more in love with it every listen

[PARADIXO 31,662]

i would say "taste" but you trash some of my favorite songs on this record 

 

As far as I am concerned I don't trash any song; I just post objective analyzation 

[Trash Magic 27,027]

Live stream with Jack was just fucking amazing. Lana's love is solely for the music. There is no other artist like her.

[Creyk 11,497]

Is it all downhill from here How will she ever top this album I fall more in love with it every listen

I'm sure she will.

This is only the beginning.

(next album needs more sad songs though like I want her to turn it up to 9000)

[Hundred Dollar Bill 21,462]

this might be the first Lana album with no skips for me.

 

with BTD i skip Without you and Lucky ones. in Paradise i skip Cola. In UV i skip TOW, Florida Kilos, and Guns and Roses. With HM i skip Burnt norton and DLMBM. with LFL i skip every song.

 

but i don't skip any song on this album, theyre all amazing

You skip COLA?! FLORIDA KILOS??? THE OTHER WOMAN!!!???!? Lucky ones + Without you????!????

 

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