ivory almond 16,744 Posted December 29, 2024 I hope she serves Nashville sound, classic vintage 50s/60s country on the record like Patsy Cline and Tammy Wynette 2 Quote the earth shattered, the sky opened that rain was fire, but we were wooden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Make me your Dream Life 89,372 Posted December 29, 2024 born to die was written off for being too different at the time, at the point of mockery paradise became her most famous work for a long time for it's quality and how it intersected w culture at the time. ultraviolence vindicated her honeymoon cemented herself as a true star albeit still an enigma lust for life was for the fans nfr was a resurgence of magic surrounding her music chemtrails was when she began to open up, or at least consider it. blue banisters had us all thinking about who Elizabeth was more, than Lana Ocean Blvd felt like a more cerebral LFL, similar to how they both seem like they could be anthologies of themes/ bodies of work as such. candy necklace glimpsed us into more of an active, dynamic sound again. it was refined, precise and polished. she escaped the EDM(?) genre even if she kinda dabbled in remixes etc. ie. she didn't become pop to be pop. she paved her own way. LFL seemed aged at the time of it's release, but aged well overall in sound. despite fans being confused af about it then. chemtrails was beginning to be loved 2 albums into and after it's release. some are only beginning to understand that nfr was about the kind of damage sociopathy can do to a person, a country and the kind of invisible pain it can cause. blue banisters still gets a lot of flack bc fans are honestly bored of her overall sound direction or lack thereof, not willing to understand it's strength lies in it's very resilience and it's softness - counterpoint to the norms of bravado. strength of it literally having answers to much disdain from external forces that wish to've molded it's direction. strength vs. power I personally don't really care or prefer not to bother cus music listening can be a subjective experience where it can all feel valid and to an extent is, but the point is. if it's been so many times before that she's wanted to keep doing things her way, and also the fact that for most, it takes this long for some to understand, why the eager close-minded mindsets when you can just let things be, feel it out and think about the bigger picture about this whole thing of her artistry? everyone's talking about an invitation, but for a lot, it seems like a burden to go. it's kinda giving dysfunctional and bored. but who's problem is that really? I personally don't really like country. there's little to what I can relate to it, in terms of the world of it but. we all know she'll have something for us to explore into. everyone just seems uneasy, and the communication of the record's definitely not the best. but just relax ya know. you don't have to be burdened by it so much. 14 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LDR69 203 Posted December 29, 2024 8 minutes ago, Make me your Dream Life said: born to die was written off for being too different at the time, at the point of mockery paradise became her most famous work for a long time for it's quality and how it intersected w culture at the time. ultraviolence vindicated her honeymoon cemented herself as a true star albeit still an enigma lust for life was for the fans nfr was a resurgence of magic surrounding her music chemtrails was when she began to open up, or at least consider it. blue banisters had us all thinking about who Elizabeth was more, than Lana Ocean Blvd felt like a more cerebral LFL, similar to how they both seem like they could be anthologies of themes/ bodies of work as such. candy necklace glimpsed us into more of an active, dynamic sound again. it was refined, precise and polished. she escaped the EDM(?) genre even if she kinda dabbled in remixes etc. ie. she didn't become pop to be pop. she paved her own way. LFL seemed aged at the time of it's release, but aged well overall in sound. despite fans being confused af about it then. chemtrails was beginning to be loved 2 albums into and after it's release. some are only beginning to understand that nfr was about the kind of damage sociopathy can do to a person, a country and the kind of invisible pain it can cause. blue banisters still gets a lot of flack bc fans are honestly bored of her overall sound direction or lack thereof, not willing to understand it's strength lies in it's very resilience and it's softness - counterpoint to the norms of bravado. strength of it literally having answers to much disdain from external forces that wish to've molded it's direction. strength vs. power I personally don't really care or prefer not to bother cus music listening can be a subjective experience where it can all feel valid and to an extent is, but the point is. if it's been so many times before that she's wanted to keep doing things her way, and also the fact that for most, it takes this long for some to understand, why the eager close-minded mindsets when you can just let things be, feel it out and think about the bigger picture about this whole thing of her artistry? everyone's talking about an invitation, but for a lot, it seems like a burden to go. it's kinda giving dysfunctional and bored. but who's problem is that really? I personally don't really like country. there's little to what I can relate to it, in terms of the world of it but. we all know she'll have something for us to explore into. everyone just seems uneasy, and the communication of the record's definitely not the best. but just relax ya know. you don't have to be burdened by it so much. All these big texts (not just that one) on this page (154) made me realise how actually beautiful her discog is and made me love it more. And it also made me realise that some of yall are very well spoken on this site Anyway, i trust her with this record, she said stripped-back and melodic which you can clearly hear at the end of henry’s snippet and i love it, so im definitely hyped. Also imagine if she puts something similar to earthquakes 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluechemtrails 27,462 Posted December 29, 2024 someone said Lana doesn't follow genres because she's a genre on her own 12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Candy Necklace 8,255 Posted December 29, 2024 I've got a hundred million reasons to walk away But baby, I just need one good one to stay 12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thats why they call me Dita 10,416 Posted December 29, 2024 bringing back may jailer sound would be the epitome of “back to basics”, yeah mix some sultry songs in like tulsa/cherry/fenway etc and it would work I love all her unreleased acoustic stuff.. and my favourite songs of hers are nectar of the gods and heroin, so I wouldn’t be too sad about this, think others may be bored tho 10 Quote like a dream, you glide on the water and like a star, I shine from the shore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ldrzodiac 1,485 Posted December 29, 2024 3 hours ago, bluechemtrails said: someone said Lana doesn't follow genres because she's a genre on her own I love this, it’s so true ! 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rancidgirl 5,742 Posted December 29, 2024 1 hour ago, Thats why they call me Dita said: bringing back may jailer sound would be the epitome of “back to basics”, yeah mix some sultry songs in like tulsa/cherry/fenway etc and it would work I love all her unreleased acoustic stuff.. and my favourite songs of hers are nectar of the gods and heroin, so I wouldn’t be too sad about this, think others may be bored tho i agree i love me a garageband acoustic demo (your band is all the rage, super movie, put me in a movie demo) 6 Quote the last rancid girl in a rancid world and i don't seem to mind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vertimus 9,720 Posted December 29, 2024 13 hours ago, honeymoon is alive said: some of you guys think that an artist has to change their sound every album to show musical growth when the greatest musicians of all time never left their original genre every music critic talks about how lana is always reinventing herself and how her work only gets better album by album, a&w was literally considered the BEST song of the 2020s so what are you guys longing for? i feel like this fandom has this nostalgia for something that is NOT coming back, just get over it and appreciate her work that she loves to share with us instead of complaining and remembering her older stuff every single time This-- just get over it and appreciate her work that she loves to share with us instead of complaining and remembering her older stuff every single time--is especially true because we don't know how much longer LDR will record, release music, or tour. We know she wants to have at least one child (unless that's changed). Being Lana Del Rey is a big job; she might continue to create and release music as so many artists have into and past their middle age, or she might not. She may decide to give her time to poetry and other writing, acting, continuing getting her pilot's license, raising a family, or any number of other things. We probably will not know when LDR produces her last album unless she tells us--and even then, as we've seen with so many artists who have 'retired' or said 'this is the last tour'--and then come out of retirement or toured again. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakoblvd 1,571 Posted December 29, 2024 When ppl say they want old lana back, like btd lana, my immediate thought is: THE MUSIC IS RIGHT THERE. Like, if you miss it so bad LISTEN TO IT. 19 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NikoGo 61,970 Posted December 29, 2024 14 hours ago, fl0r1dakil0s said: i don't think it's "wrong" either obviously but like what other genre album is she supposed to make I literally answered that question in the post you quoted I don’t think she’s supposed to make any kind of genre, but a country/southern gothic album would be something very different from her, and her working with Luke, an actual country producer, makes me think that the vibe and sonic switch up would be good 5 Quote "Don’t forget me" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeminiLanaFan 49,558 Posted December 29, 2024 If she goes a more subtle sound (which Ocean Blvd wasn’t for the most parts), I don’t mind at all Yosemite type of acoustic guitar, Candy Necklace piano ballads because they’re not just piano and guitar, although the rest of the production of these songs is subtle. But if she chooses a guitar / piano only type of production, the melodies need to be memorable because if not, it’s gonna take a lot of patience to have this album hit. I do wonder what the Drew tracks will sound like: his work with Father John Misty is spectacular and most tracks with Lana are outstanding (Let the Light In, Summertime, Fingertips, Ocean Blvd, Arcadia). It’s when she wants a piano-only track (like Beautiful or Violets for Roses) that I don’t think she used his composing talents at the best of what he can do. 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ralphie Choo 143 Posted December 29, 2024 Drew Erickson produced Father John Misty's new album and the melodies are beautiful. I would love a production like that. 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barttttender 5,306 Posted December 29, 2024 15 hours ago, ivory almond said: yes, exactly; in my mind, these are the main genres of each album: Indie Pop/Trip Hop/Orchestral Pop: 1. Born To Die 2. Paradise 5. Lust For Life --------- Psychedelic Rock/Folk Rock/Alternative Pop: 3. Ultraviolence 6. Norman Fucking Rockwell --------- Baroque Pop/Dream Pop: 4. Honeymoon --------- Americana/Indie Folk/Alternative/Classical Country: 7. Chemtrails Over The Country Club 8. Blue Banisters 9. Did you know that there's a tunnel under Ocean Blvd 10. The right person will stay BTD/Paradise gave us mainly electronic elements with orchestral textures. Ultraviolence gave us very distorted, live elements with atmospheric rock. Honeymoon gave us downtempo, ambient, classical elements that modernized old Jazz music. Lust For Life is the least cohesive in terms of sound, but returns to more BTD, electronic elements while also incorporating folk. NFR marks the switch in her sound, picking up from LFL's transition into a fully folk pop sound with lots of piano-based songs but also rock influence that is reminiscent of UV. Chemtrails gets less electronic than NFR, but maintains the folk aspects, now with a somewhat country flare. Blue Banisters gets very piano-heavy, but has lots of other acoustic elements like guitars and strings on top of it. Ocean Blvd is another album that isn't very cohesive, but still has piano-heavy tracks with more experimental textures, getting back to the electronic elements from NFR like synths and beats. Personally, I would say LFL, BTD, and Paradise are pretty similar sonically; about the same amount of similarity as NFR, COTCC, BB, and OB. But as you can see, UV and HM broke up that run of albums from being to repetitive, and Paradise was actually an EP for BTD, so that shouldn't really count against her early evolution. Even with Lana going country for the next album, it seems like it will be repetitive since it will be so folk-adjacent like the previous four albums. You can also sequence the albums in terms of producers. Emile Haynie: 1. Born To Die 2. Paradise Dan Auerbach: 3. Ultraviolence Rick Nowels: 4. Honeymoon 5. Lust For Life Jack Antonoff: 6. Norman Fucking Rockwell 7. Chemtrails Over The Country Club 9. Did you know that there's a tunnel under Ocean Blvd 10. The right person will stay Drew Erickson: 8. Blue Banisters Personally, I hope the next album we get from her is either Soft Rock, Dark Pop, or Southern Gothic (if she continues on the country path). She really needs to drop Jack Antonoff though. I would love to see her work with Rick and Auerbach again, but if she doesn't, she should find a new producer. I think an album produced by Paul Epworth, FINNEAS, Patrick Hyland, or Max Martin would be awesome. 100%. Imagine the seismic shift in her sound if Finneas or Max Martin produced her record. Or The Weeknd. I personally would love the change. Kevin Parker would be amazing too, although he dropped the ball with Dua Lipa with only a few Kevin Parker production-level songs. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackritchiexo 307 Posted December 29, 2024 i hope she ventures out to new producers soon she can keep who she’s been working wish but another producer to get another angle and add something new or switch the production round because jack is an amazing producer but not for an entire album 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrFameKills 11,133 Posted December 29, 2024 we need tea @111 to clock the chile and thats period mama 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Distantly 3,934 Posted December 29, 2024 4 minutes ago, MrFameKills said: we need tea @111 to clock the chile and thats period mama Yes exactly this 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou 9,833 Posted December 29, 2024 Like the tiniest bit of insight would be appreciated. All we have to go on is the 11 month old Henry snippet and Chuck’s homemade cover. After 10 months of fake release dates and backtracking statements, it’s hard to sus out the vibe of this album. 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ivory almond 16,744 Posted December 29, 2024 3 hours ago, GeminiLanaFan said: If she goes a more subtle sound (which Ocean Blvd wasn’t for the most parts), I don’t mind at all Yosemite type of acoustic guitar Yosemite being the only Rick Nowels track on COCC: 2 Quote the earth shattered, the sky opened that rain was fire, but we were wooden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeanne Dielman 6,012 Posted December 29, 2024 3 hours ago, GeminiLanaFan said: If she goes a more subtle sound (which Ocean Blvd wasn’t for the most parts), I don’t mind at all Yosemite type of acoustic guitar, Candy Necklace piano ballads because they’re not just piano and guitar, although the rest of the production of these songs is subtle. But if she chooses a guitar / piano only type of production, the melodies need to be memorable because if not, it’s gonna take a lot of patience to have this album hit. I do wonder what the Drew tracks will sound like: his work with Father John Misty is spectacular and most tracks with Lana are outstanding (Let the Light In, Summertime, Fingertips, Ocean Blvd, Arcadia). It’s when she wants a piano-only track (like Beautiful or Violets for Roses) that I don’t think she used his composing talents at the best of what he can do. Drew also worked with Angel Olsen and Mitski on their latest albums, which have strong country and folk elements. And, yes, his work with Father John Misty on his latest album is extremely impressive, and I'm a big fan of his arrangements and production on the Ocean Blvd tracks. Let The Light In is the type of laid-back lyrically straight-forward/simple and melodically rich track that might be an indication of Drew's work on The right person will stay, given that we aren't getting super wordy songs like Fingertips (or even Arcadia, a poem that turned into a song) this time around. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites