honeymoon is alive 22,436 Posted 17 hours ago some of you guys think that an artist has to change their sound every album to show musical growth when the greatest musicians of all time never left their original genre every music critic talks about how lana is always reinventing herself and how her work only gets better album by album, a&w was literally considered the BEST song of the 2020s so what are you guys longing for? i feel like this fandom has this nostalgia for something that is NOT coming back, just get over it and appreciate her work that she loves to share with us instead of complaining and remembering her older stuff every single time 25 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Make me your Dream Life 89,216 Posted 17 hours ago So I’m not sure if this’ll ring true for others so much if at all, but ever since the blue banisters album. It personally felt like the music kinda transcended from music to a more, immersive and complimentary status for me. which is different from being able to relate to the music like how it is typically, but idk, it’s like a switch turned on, and the music honestly just felt like an accompanying guide or extension/ part of me with how it came about and it’s strangely enough, poorly described soundscape. For me, it actually made the music a lot more real and immersive bc it helped bring about more of it’s meanings and paralleled a kind of hope in bleakness in a sense. Another reason why I’m not worried 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
honeymoon is alive 22,436 Posted 16 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Make me your Dream Life said: So I’m not sure if this’ll ring true for others so much if at all, but ever since the blue banisters album. It personally felt like the music kinda transcended from music to a more, immersive and complimentary status for me. which is different from being able to relate to the music like how it is typically, but idk, it’s like a switch turned on, and the music honestly just felt like an accompanying guide or extension/ part of me with how it came about and it’s strangely enough, poorly described soundscape. For me, it actually made the music a lot more real and immersive bc it helped bring about more of it’s meanings and paralleled a kind of hope in bleakness in a sense. Another reason why I’m not worried EXACTLY i feel the same, loved your text 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NikoGo 61,829 Posted 16 hours ago 1 minute ago, honeymoon is alive said: some of you guys think that an artist has to change their sound every album to show musical growth when the greatest musicians of all time never left their original genre I do agree with the second part of your comment, about the fandom hoping for things that aren’t coming back (like the guitar in BTD and the sonic landscape of UV) but I don’t think it’s wrong to want Lana to change and evolve her musical style. Her first 5 albums are all extremely different from each other, and while COTCC-BB-Ocean Blvd all have a slightly different sound, all three of them sound a bit mix-tapey with a slight lean into folk. even Paradise, which is considered an extension of BTD, is very different sonically. I don’t wish for her to go back to her old sound, but at the same time I would like her to tackle a different genre, which is why Lasso always appealed to me, some fans didn’t want country, but at least it was a switch up. 14 Quote "Don’t forget me" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Americen Whore 10,464 Posted 16 hours ago 9 minutes ago, honeymoon is alive said: some of you guys think that an artist has to change their sound every album to show musical growth when the greatest musicians of all time never left their original genre every music critic talks about how lana is always reinventing herself and how her work only gets better album by album, a&w was literally considered the BEST song of the 2020s so what are you guys longing for? i feel like this fandom has this nostalgia for something that is NOT coming back, just get over it and appreciate her work that she loves to share with us instead of complaining and remembering her older stuff every single time What if I say that my top 5 lana songs are all from her last 4 albums 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeanne Dielman 6,006 Posted 16 hours ago I really don't think that Lana has been working on this album for four years. She's probably been toying with the idea of making a country record for four years, yes, but hasn't necessarily been working on it all this time. "Hey baby blue" and "I must be stupid for being so happy" are prime examples of Jack and Lana playing around with country-ish elements back in 2019. As we all know, they couldn't work together in 2020 and 2021 at all due to the pandemic (hence why COCC's tracklist was put together pretty quickly, and Erickson and Simon produced the new songs on Blue Banisters). Of course Lana and Nikki Lane must have recorded some stuff during that period ("Prettiest Girl in Country Music" for example), and Lana probably started preparing the American Classics record during that period, as well (which hasn't panned out yet, lol). "Blue Skies" and "Take Me Home, Country Roads" must have been tracks that were supposed to be included on that album. But "The right person will stay" doesn't sound like the (country-ish) project that we've been expecting from her. Certainly not the "Lasso" version. Her uncertainty and reluctance to talk about it speaks volumes. What she has mentioned so far though is that she doesn't want to follow the "country" trend - which makes sense, because Lana wouldn't want to be seen as a trend follower at all -, and that the direction she was heading to made her feel creatively/artistically uncomfortable. In her most recent review in August, she said that she might go back to the original version of what she had in mind, which might mean a more "stripped-down" sound. And I think this is exactly what is going to happen. Saying that she doesn't want the album to be filled with "half-cooked" ideas and songs is important, too. "So grateful that my 13 songs came together..." is giving strictly curated tracklist, in my opinion. Yes, the result might be a mostly acoustic May Jailer-ish album, but I think that she has put a lot of thought into this and doesn't want it to feel incomplete, rushed or directionless. 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
honeymoon is alive 22,436 Posted 16 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Americen Whore said: What if I say that my top 5 lana songs are all from her last 4 albums honestly same, i feel much more connected to her newer music and lyrics and as @Make me your Dream Life said, it feels much more than just music. the whole meaning behind every song is what makes me fall in love with it 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Make me your Dream Life 89,216 Posted 16 hours ago 16 minutes ago, honeymoon is alive said: honestly same, i feel much more connected to her newer music and lyrics and as @Make me your Dream Life said, it feels much more than just music. the whole meaning behind every song is what makes me fall in love with it Personally, a lot started to parallel from NFR, and then the pandemic started for that and cotcc and following that journey to blue banisters to the cerebral overload of ob. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaesana 3,718 Posted 16 hours ago 35 minutes ago, honeymoon is alive said: some of you guys think that an artist has to change their sound every album to show musical growth when the greatest musicians of all time never left their original genre every music critic talks about how lana is always reinventing herself and how her work only gets better album by album, a&w was literally considered the BEST song of the 2020s so what are you guys longing for? i feel like this fandom has this nostalgia for something that is NOT coming back, just get over it and appreciate her work that she loves to share with us instead of complaining and remembering her older stuff every single time born to die themes/musical style wouldn’t sound natural coming from a 40-year-old newlywed anyway. Just like ocean boulevard wouldn’t sound good coming from a self-absorbed, inexperienced 27-year-old. Her musical choices are a direct reflection of the life she’s living. If you want to listen to born to die / born to die inspired work, she has an unreleased catalog of 50+ songs from that era. Download the files 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fl0r1dakil0s 21,570 Posted 16 hours ago 49 minutes ago, NikoGo said: I don’t think it’s wrong to want Lana to change and evolve her musical style. Her first 5 albums are all extremely different from each other, and while COTCC-BB-Ocean Blvd all have a slightly different sound, all three of them sound a bit mix-tapey with a slight lean into folk. I don’t wish for her to go back to her old sound, but at the same time I would like her to tackle a different genre i don't think it's "wrong" either obviously but like what other genre album is she supposed to make she has made an album or songs of basically every style of music that fits her voice and vibes.. i think everything she makes will just inevitably be compared to her past music because she has explored so much and unless she makes a HUGE pivot and does a musical theater record or some other atrocious idea people will still say it doesn't sound new 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Honeymoonwitch 1,864 Posted 15 hours ago And when she drops the two singles on Tuesday then what 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ivory almond 16,669 Posted 15 hours ago 34 minutes ago, NikoGo said: I don’t think it’s wrong to want Lana to change and evolve her musical style. Her first 5 albums are all extremely different from each other, and while COTCC-BB-Ocean Blvd all have a slightly different sound, all three of them sound a bit mix-tapey with a slight lean into folk. yes, exactly; in my mind, these are the main genres of each album: Indie Pop/Trip Hop/Orchestral Pop: 1. Born To Die 2. Paradise 5. Lust For Life --------- Psychedelic Rock/Folk Rock/Alternative Pop: 3. Ultraviolence 6. Norman Fucking Rockwell --------- Baroque Pop/Dream Pop: 4. Honeymoon --------- Americana/Indie Folk/Alternative/Classical Country: 7. Chemtrails Over The Country Club 8. Blue Banisters 9. Did you know that there's a tunnel under Ocean Blvd 10. The right person will stay BTD/Paradise gave us mainly electronic elements with orchestral textures. Ultraviolence gave us very distorted, live elements with atmospheric rock. Honeymoon gave us downtempo, ambient, classical elements that modernized old Jazz music. Lust For Life is the least cohesive in terms of sound, but returns to more BTD, electronic elements while also incorporating folk. NFR marks the switch in her sound, picking up from LFL's transition into a fully folk pop sound with lots of piano-based songs but also rock influence that is reminiscent of UV. Chemtrails gets less electronic than NFR, but maintains the folk aspects, now with a somewhat country flare. Blue Banisters gets very piano-heavy, but has lots of other acoustic elements like guitars and strings on top of it. Ocean Blvd is another album that isn't very cohesive, but still has piano-heavy tracks with more experimental textures, getting back to the electronic elements from NFR like synths and beats. Personally, I would say LFL, BTD, and Paradise are pretty similar sonically; about the same amount of similarity as NFR, COTCC, BB, and OB. But as you can see, UV and HM broke up that run of albums from being to repetitive, and Paradise was actually an EP for BTD, so that shouldn't really count against her early evolution. Even with Lana going country for the next album, it seems like it will be repetitive since it will be so folk-adjacent like the previous four albums. You can also sequence the albums in terms of producers. Emile Haynie: 1. Born To Die 2. Paradise Dan Auerbach: 3. Ultraviolence Rick Nowels: 4. Honeymoon 5. Lust For Life Jack Antonoff: 6. Norman Fucking Rockwell 7. Chemtrails Over The Country Club 9. Did you know that there's a tunnel under Ocean Blvd 10. The right person will stay Drew Erickson: 8. Blue Banisters Personally, I hope the next album we get from her is either Soft Rock, Dark Pop, or Southern Gothic (if she continues on the country path). She really needs to drop Jack Antonoff though. I would love to see her work with Rick and Auerbach again, but if she doesn't, she should find a new producer. I think an album produced by Paul Epworth, FINNEAS, Patrick Hyland, or Max Martin would be awesome. 2 Quote the earth shattered, the sky opened that rain was fire, but we were wooden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ivory almond 16,669 Posted 15 hours ago 43 minutes ago, fl0r1dakil0s said: i don't think it's "wrong" either obviously but like what other genre album is she supposed to make she has made an album or songs of basically every style of music that fits her voice and vibes.. i think everything she makes will just inevitably be compared to her past music because she has explored so much and unless she makes a HUGE pivot and does a musical theater record or some other atrocious idea people will still say it doesn't sound new I disagree. She has been in the boring, piano-based, acoustic genre for a while, and before that, she only did one true rock-influenced record and the rest was alternative pop. If she returned to pop, but made it less trappy and more dark pop like the weeknd or billie eilish, I think it'd be cool. Or if she returned to rock and actually did something heavy like Nirvana or Hole OR something new and innovative in the soft rock genre like Duster. OR she could go really experimental and electronic like Radiohead or Grouper. There's so much more she hasn't fully dived into like she has with folk/piano ballads. 11 Quote the earth shattered, the sky opened that rain was fire, but we were wooden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lana Del Dufrene 11,366 Posted 14 hours ago (edited) 46 minutes ago, ivory almond said: I disagree. She has been in the boring, piano-based, acoustic genre for a while, and before that, she only did one true rock-influenced record and the rest was alternative pop. If she returned to pop, but made it less trappy and more dark pop like the weeknd or billie eilish, I think it'd be cool. Or if she returned to rock and actually did something heavy like Nirvana or Hole OR something new and innovative in the soft rock genre like Duster. OR she could go really experimental and electronic like Radiohead or Grouper. There's so much more she hasn't fully dived into like she has with folk/piano ballads. I can't begin to explain how tired we are edit: thats not to say I hate her new lyricisim tho. Edited 14 hours ago by Lana Del Dufrene 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Honeyyoung 17,100 Posted 14 hours ago 2 hours ago, honeymoon is alive said: some of you guys think that an artist has to change their sound every album to show musical growth when the greatest musicians of all time never left their original genre every music critic talks about how lana is always reinventing herself and how her work only gets better album by album, a&w was literally considered the BEST song of the 2020s so what are you guys longing for? i feel like this fandom has this nostalgia for something that is NOT coming back, just get over it and appreciate her work that she loves to share with us instead of complaining and remembering her older stuff every single time this exactly 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackritchiexo 282 Posted 13 hours ago i understand everyone’s points and i’ve loved the past few albums but what i really need is production that sounds expensive like the way her older work did something unique that stands out that dosent mean she can’t do what she’s been doing for the past 5 years and yes her sound has still been evolving i just think it would be nice to hear something fresh from this album and PLEASE give us some upbeat songs i feel like we were getting somewhere with ocean blvd 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lana Del Dufrene 11,366 Posted 13 hours ago 2 minutes ago, jackritchiexo said: i understand everyone’s points and i’ve loved the past few albums but what i really need is production that sounds expressive like the way her older work did something unique that stands out that dosent mean she can’t do what she’s been doing for the past 5 years and yes her sound has still been evolving i just think it would be nice to hear something fresh from this album and PLEASE give us some upbeat songs i feel like we were getting somewhere with ocean blvd 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackritchiexo 282 Posted 12 hours ago 43 minutes ago, Lana Del Dufrene said: oops i meant expensive not expressive 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ivory almond 16,669 Posted 12 hours ago I hope she serves Nashville sound, classic vintage 50s/60s country on the record like Patsy Cline and Tammy Wynette 2 Quote the earth shattered, the sky opened that rain was fire, but we were wooden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites