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not to be dramatic but i love him

Okay Mike is kind of a hot mess, and I like that about him? He's already more engaging with Lana stans and haters than any of Lana's past collaborators/producers. This is going to be good.

Honeymoon was made by Rick Nowels

So I’ve been thinking this for a little while and quite honestly hesitated saying anything until tonight. Negating her previous records’ artistic success is, IMHO, blasphemy because her sonic direction, desires, and delivery (triple DD if you will ) represents who she is - perhaps who she was at the time. I really do believe her intrinsic identity embedded to her records is representative of what she went through, what she thought, what she felt, what she experienced at the time. And dismissing the production because of the simplicity and the instrumental purity of basic, melodic layering simply because the people can’t bop their b(p)ussies to it is, to me, ultimately sad. We seem to forget she has the ultimate say in her releases and, therefore, things sound the way they sound because she wanted it that way. Sure, she might challenge her producer(s) to do something outside of their customs or their conventions. But those projects were ultimately disseminated to the masses...under her direction. And I believe the same will be true of her upcoming albums - but it’s futile to dismiss the legitimacy and the value of her work because you can’t twerk to it. If that’s not your style move on...but I seem to somehow always find a way to relate to it. Perhaps because we’re ~somewhat~ similar in age. But I rest in the fact that her lyricism stays true to herself. I find a lot of calm in this. Excuse my rant...it’s not very often I express my buried thoughts.

He liked this, I'm laughing

THE CHAOS IN THIS THREAD MUST MEAN THE ALBUM IS COMING

reading this thread as somebody who appreciates and loves her work from both nfr/cotcc and her previous eras

let her self-produce, that way y'all can blame her but only her

Honestly I have no idea what to even expect anymore, everything is confusing

Ngl it's so nice to see Mike being so interactive with fans online, it makes him seem very down-to-earth and just fun in general So glad he is working with Lana

MIKE JUST RETWEETED ME I LOVE HIM ALREADY exactly mikey show jack what it’s like being loved by your clients fans

Some of you need to

it was cool being a country folky person for two months and all but...it's time for hip-hop and synths baddie era is finally here

Lana should work with a completely unknown producer next era so we don't have anyone to compare them to

not half of LB asking questions for the culture

i just listened to Mike’s latest album and what i really like is him transitioning every song into the next one. i always dreamed of lana making a record where every song perfectly flows into the next one. imagine a whole album with freak/art deco transitions... a dream i’d like to dream

lmao i've just been looking through mike deans twitter, he seems so real ,naturally cool and interactive, i already like his vibe way more than jacks, he always seemed a little bit pretentious and obnoxious to me, like can we just appreciate that we have a really cool new producer that lana is working with... we really did it kids finally out of the jack, into the mikedeanue

I started this when we thought Rock Candy Sweet was still the album title, but thought I’d finish it to reflect Blue Banisters lol. I had something different for Lana in mind when doing this! Kind of Travis Scott-inspired.

who else is excited for blue banisters? which will be produced by mike dean? it's coming july 4th

friendship ended with jack antonoff, now mike dean is my best friend

One of the many things I love about Lana is that she continuously tries to expand her horizon with what kind of music she can make. She creates worlds which each albums, a sort of escape And mike is a highly sought after and respected producer in hip hop that has an amazing ability with synths. and you can hear it in BB snippet, the heavy piano chords with prolonged notes that fade into synths a la bb demo , so its exiting to hear that she’s going for a new soundscape for a new world she’s creating reaaaalllly excited to see what happens

He honestly seems like the « right » producer to go to if she really wants to channel anything related to QFTC.

ummm there is no such thing as registering album on spotify gays are hungry for the album but...................the embarrassment of this era is just...

Reading this thread descend into madness mid-glam ♥️

blue banisters announcement in three hours

Jack is tearing this fandom apart

A pisces and a cancer working on music together?? Its gonna be AMAZING

yes, getting ready for catholic psychedelic synth folk!

Yaaaaas the girls are fighting, we’re finally close to getting news era starting NEXT WEEK synths strings MIKE blue banisters coming late July/early August to give us HEAT, ANGER, and REVENGE

Seeing how much Mike interacts with fans on Twitter has been super interesting to me as well. He literally liked something tell him not make the album boring lol. His production is genius and he has a sense of humor - this era is going to be so good

The way this album is going to be her Blackout... a fiery, cult-status record that stays true to the artist’s style but adds an electronic twist and just so happens to be written partly in response to negative press

just because her voice has changed and matured doesn't mean born to die has "aged like milk" if that's the case, you could say that about all of her past work, including sirens & aka, and every unreleased song from pre-fame, even the ultraviolence era because she doesn't sing like that anymore, artist's voices will change and mature during their career but it doesn't mean their past work has aged poorly...

Whew the passive aggressiveness in this thread

Mike said in his interview that the music he was talking about was for “this album” and not for “the next album”. Then he said that he and Lana hadn’t finished anything yet, but he plans on working with her a lot in the future. Yes he said they hadn’t completed “anything”, but I really don’t think he meant they literally haven’t completed even one song together. I think he means that he came onboard in the late stages of BB/RCS to do a few tracks or to make some tweaks, and after that they made plans to make one or more full albums together which have yet to be completed. I have a feeling Jack and/or Zach handled most of the production on BB/RCS, which would explain why Mike said he hadn’t completed anything since he views BB/RCS as mostly a project done by other producers. Mike was also smoking hella weed in that interview which probably made his wording a little unclear, and he seemed like he was being intentionally vague about Lana as if he has been told to keep hush. Mike is famous for completely reworking Yeezus in the final days before release. He might be doing that for BB/RCS, but Yeezus was a streaming only album which allowed Mike and Kanye to tweak it up until the last minute. Lana does big physical sales numbers but bad streaming numbers compared to Kanye. The only case that I see Lana putting out a streaming only album would be if this is a covers album, or her album of unreleased songs. But from the BB snippet and video clip, and from the way Lana talked about it addressing QFTC, it definitely seems like this will be an album of new and original songs with high production budget and MV’s, ie. the album will almost certainly get a physical release. There is a possibility that the album could be mostly unreleased old songs (Cherry Blossom), along with a handful of new songs (Blue Bannisters), in which case the album would likely be streaming only and could possibly be still incomplete and delayed. We learned from COCC that the vinyl printing process takes months. Lana missed her September release for COCC because she announced September like 6 months in advanced if I remember correctly, when the album was still a work in progress. Lana would not announce a release date for an incomplete album that is getting a physical release two months out when she knows that the vinyl printing alone would take more than two months. So in summary my opinion is that there is about 75% chance that BB/RCS is complete and is coming July 4th. If the album is incomplete and significantly delayed, then it is definitely a streaming only album and not a physical release. I really don’t think it is delulu to think the album is 100% complete and coming. I’m also still holding onto the slim possibility that RCS and BB are two separate albums that are both coming out this summer, but that actually does make me delulu

Ok lets stop the jack hate gate, lets start the mike appreciation gate mike stans won, unfortunatelly for some single individuals jack is forever gone and not coming back

we need a thread in LB where it’s just videos of him smoking

Instead of rehashing the same topic of Jack and Lana, let’s focus on something we can all agree on! And that’s the reality that if Lana did the same sort of sound every single album, we wouldn’t appreciate the records for what they are as their own. Yes, we would probably still like them and enjoy them, but Lana is a true artist because she can recount her experiences through so many different lenses and make it authentic. Born to Die is innovative, lyrically and sonically. Nobody has done it like her on that album. Paradise is a thoughtful and provocative extension of that album and is a soulful piece that only Lana Del Rey could create. Ultraviolence is full of fire, it’s raw, aggressive, but still cool and calm and collected. Honeymoon takes that even a step further with its subdued elegance and candid-but-abstract lyricism. Lust for Life is bright-eyed and brilliant in its narrative. Norman is casual and a soundtrack for daily life, it’s a look into Lana more intimately. And Chemtrails takes that to a more existential level as a moody meditation on fame. My point is - they’re all different. I love Jack and Lana’s sound but I think if they did three albums together in a row, I would of course love it, but what we love about Lana is how she can step into any genre and still make it her own. I’m sure that if Lana always made a “2.0” of her records, then people would take an issue with that. I’m also sure that Mike Dean is going to bring something fun and exciting to the table and help her reach whatever artistic vision she has this time around. It’s definitely going to be a change and that’s exciting! The uncertainty in that with room for something grand is exciting.

Album's gonna be great Obviously. The way we're getting her magnum opus Y'all...we aren't ready.

I can guarantee you that nobody would say that, bestie.

the chemtrails era was dead upon arrival

I just finished listening to the podcast! It was very interesting and insightful, especially for someone like me who has always been interested in fan culture particularly when it comes to music. (I mean hell - with owning an entire fan forum with 15,000+ members from all across the world that visit here for a variety of music artists - I sort of have to be, right?) I also think that Marina was the perfect artist to do this with, not only because she's interested in psychology and has taken courses in the past, but because the themes of what a lot of fan culture breaks down to are what she sings about in her music. For example, identity, a sense of belonging, humanity, fulfillment - these are all themes that were talked about in the podcast as reasonings for fan culture, and these are large themes that have been regularly seen in Marina's work. I also loved their little bit talking about live music and how that can be especially important to both the fans and the artist. I'm a concert junkie, and I see multiple shows from all of my favourite artists. It's not only that euphoric sense of being in the presence of live music solely because of the artist, but it's the community as well. Especially for someone like me who likes to queue for hours in line for a show, I've met so many incredible people from all different fandoms who I still keep in touch with. If anything, this podcast just made me crave live music again even more than I have been over the past year and being back in my little sanctuary - a concert venue. Anyway, incredible podcast. Definitely give it a listen if you're a fan of Marina, or a fan of anyone really. x

@Lustformoney can you convince Mike to join LB? We have questions

This thread talking about Jack every two days

I couldn't have said it better honestly

not yall hating on Jack when he literally made the best lana album to date, he deserves respect for making NFR

the fact that the producer of lana’s up coming album worked on the most acclaimed and one of the most important works in modern music history just gives me that RUSH like wow just him being confirmed on the record is such a great and promising omen

The way 'Chemtrails' turned out to be pretty tamed as far as music went, compared to the messy roll out and Lana's episodes of public meltdoen. Just based off of Mike's attitude I can tell this era is going to be messy and I'm lowkey living for it.

is there anyone else who's tired of Jack but loved NFR/COCC?

i don't hate jack either and i don't have any reason for hating him, i appreciate his work and i think nfr & cotcc are gorgeous albums, and like @IanadeIrey said, they serve a purpose, but i am ready for something new and i feel like mike dean is a great fit for lana, and he seems really cool and also really funny, i'm feeling really positive about it!