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Rehashing the same 5 talking points about Lana’s and Jeremy’s political takes in this thread when there’s a perfectly acceptable thread where we can have this same conversation…. over and over and over again. Why here

The right person will not post in this thread until we get any news

Lana dressed up as an alligator and hides in the swamp, it's gonna be a can you find me type of photo

From Pitchfork’s 32 Most Anticipated Albums of 2025:

I've always wanted Lana to do a shoegaze album. Come on Lana, branch out after this cute little acoustic record.

It's not about her being a woman. It's about her being infinitely removed from Trump's anti-trans, anti-gay, anti-immigrant, anti-POC, etc. agenda. The anti-abortion thing is the only thing she's connected to and she has the wealth to avoid that if she ever needed it. It's a luxury for her to oppose Trump because her life doesn't depend on that. It's a luxury for her to marry a Trump supporter who literally wants to commit violence against transgender people because she doesn't have to live with the consequences of people like that being around. Her ideals mean nothing since it's not like she ever acted on them. For all the shit Taylor Swift gets, at least she actually opposed Trump when it mattered. Lana pretended to be a witch then married a man who loves him. I love Lana but I've had to divorce that from my personal opinion of her as a person. And no celebrity is above critique.

Walden has been in the trenches and gets it. I’m still not convinced it’s the final album title.

regardless... i doubt that she would have anything negative or discriminatory to say about that, assuming that just seems odd to me, especially when we don't know with certainty that the song's even about ethel cain in the first place this is the same woman who made a post celebrating the life of goddess bunny, a transgender drag queen, when she passed away, i don't think it makes any sense or is even appropriate to assume she's transphobic and would go as far as saying something like that in a song, especially when she knows that all of her stuff leaks

technically, it's an EP, but i think of it as an album just like born to die or ultraviolence

that is.. not happening

The one for Tough/Tour poster is so pretty so I hope she uses more pictures from that for something. Maybe she scrapped the idea but I'm sure it was for some other things originally cause I'm sure she didn't have multiple looks just to post a couple of IG pictures

this thread is dusty af w no news.

Lana actually considered "violet Bent backwards over the Grass" as her official studio album let me tell you....

I consider it an album but I also consider Ultraviolence as her second album so I guess I don’t consider it an album lol? Maybe the best answer is it is an EP but it’s such a cohesive and high quality project that it feels like an album.

i think it counts AKA as her first studio album (and born to die as first major label), making ocean blvd 9th but i think paradise is an EP that should’ve been an album and we are all free to consider an album and i consider it as such

I say yes! I see lots of people arguing about this for some reason? And I just wanted your opinions. Lana’s Spotify description (before it was changed to blank) stated that Born To Die was her debut album (which I agree with) and Ocean Blvd’s album cover states that it is Lana’s 9th album. Therefore, since BTD is her debut, Paradise would have to be considered an album to make up the 9, no? 1. BTD 2. Paradise 3. UV 4. HM 5. LFL 6. NFR 7. COTCC 8. BB 9. Ocean Blvd (and 10 obviously TRPWS) Not only that but it’s listed as an album on Spotify and it does qualify as an album not an EP. I personally believe that Paradise is a separate album! Now I’ve tried to have this conversation with people before but they were always on the defensive for some reason and I was hoping to have a decent normal person conversation with people about this topic.

Made a TRPWS playlist guys 🙏🙏 btw thats just songs that I imagine that would match the vibe of the album

hope we get sum more.

I still believe that the first photoshoot of this era will be this one

I think this is an EP if we consider the 2012 standards (released a year after the first album, 8-9 songs; it was an easy way to make more money and packaging it with the first one before having a second album. Gaga did the same with Monster). But by today’s standards, it would be an album. Paradise has its own sound, it’s not a mixtape with lots of collabs or instrumental tracks and the songs provide a cohesive landscape. Interscope now counts it as the second Lana album. in the end though, it’s not that important I think

I see Paradise as an EP but a completely separate project from BTD with its own vibe, era, tour, etc. Honestly it is anything but an extension/deluxe edition of BTD.

I've always seen it as an EP, since it was also released as one. But whenever someone says "Paradise is my favourite album" i don't try to correct them, because why would you be that bothered Albums, releases, bodies of work, its all the same to me for the most part.

It is a separate project. Though I still view it as an EP rather than an album. Lana said in 2012 interviews that it’s a separate body of work (than BTD), and the EP has a separate tour, era etc. Kinda bothered me when people merged paradise as a part of BTD Plus… paradise is 100000x better than BTD…

I’m surprised Lana and Kacey Musgraves never collaborated beyond the Christmas special. It’d be so good. I was listening to “Velvet Elvis” and thought a Lana feature would’ve fit so well

i guess the desperation for the right person to come and stay is getting to us...

Many people (including me) have been talking about DYKTTATUOB as 'Ocean Blvd' but I think that Lana would've wanted for us to call it 'Tunnel' and here's why: So in the title track of the album, she says "Don't forget me like the tunnel under ocean blvd" which is a metaphor for her career. And she also asks "Did you know that there's a tunnel under ocean blvd?" which signifies as that the person she's talking to already knows what Ocean Blvd is but may be unaware that there's a tunnel under it. Therefore, people KNOW Ocean Blvd, but most people don't know about the tunnel. So let's say that the tunnel is her career. And the fact that many (including me) have been calling it 'Ocean Blvd' while we should've been calling it 'Tunnel' since Tunnel is the forgotten part, so we have forgot about the Tunnel, and we only focus on the most well-known part: The Ocean Blvd. I just read this out loud and realized that I made no sense

The Fishtail hint in audio and caption

she would also say violets is one of her albums and her favourite at that so who cares what that venice bitch has to say

she rarely uses real names (except for her family), so maybe Henry is a code for Evan

I feel like if you were to ask Lana she’d just respond with “sure idk”

It was Evan's actually I know he had another dog as well, I think their name was Honey. Henry passed away last Summer, if I remember correctly.

even if Aka isn't considered as first album, they could count the audiobook of Violet (spoken word album) as one...

I'm so done with all the EP/Album discussion, people are so nitpicky about it, especially with Ethel Cain's new release. It's come to the point where there's more discussion about "why is this an EP it's 90 minutes" than the actual music itself. I don't see why it matters, it's just a technical thing, a decision made by the artist or the label. It's like bickering over the packaging of a salad, I don't care about the box just lemme eat my fucking salad

Spotify is known to be wrong a lot, And AKA is her first studio album, Even if she pulled it - You can’t change history.

I also think paradise is an album for the most part. More like a double album to born to die (wish it got 1 more song tbh)

this is so unserious yet they’re not wrong

Yea I was just about to say the Beyoncé thing. That’s NEVER happening lol

i dunno what thread to post this comment in but what’s this i’m hearing about LDR being on Beyoncé’s next record? i would genuinely shit.

I've played this about 30 times in a row

Been a fan of hers for almost 10 years and the nickname Merna still sends me every time

The right answer is that it's a project

Lana does, I think she said that. To be honest, I think like most people, I count Violet audiobook as a side project. If she released the unreleased album or cover album, I would count it as a side project as well.

not counting it as an album is selling it short. it is it’s own body of work and everything about it is stunning. it’s far longer and more involved than most artists ep's, and the amount of effort that went into the (as lana likes to put it) 'world building' is not lost on me it is it’s own album BTD PARADISE UV HM ETC..

even if all about ethel is about ethel cain i honestly highly doubt she even knows she's trans in the first place lol

i'm so excited for the first photoshoot of the year i wonder what it will look like and what will it be for

Songs for this project started as songs for the next album as insider once said and Lana herself called it a separate thing in some 2012 interviews so you can say that especially that Young & Beautiful and I Don’t Wanna Go fit the album so well I’ve always considered them kind of part of it

I’ve always considered it an album but maybe I’m biased because it’s my top 3

The Truth is we ignore a lot of stuff about Lana that is negative because cognitive dissonance is easier than facing potential truths over an artist we love, Lana does bad things and makes poor decisions just like anyone else. We turn a blind eye to some things because we love her music and she still has a lot of good in her that outweighs the bad.

When Henry turns out to be Lana and Beyonce’s Telephone

No. It’s an EP. AKA, BTD, UV, HM, LFL, NFR, COCC, BB, DYK are the albums…